It would be so redundant of me to post the entire history of "he said, he said" in the War over Nukes and UFOs, therefore I will provide you with links to some of the major postings on the internet.
UFO Magazine-squarespace
http://ufomagazine.squarespace.com/ufo-magazine/2010/10/22/james-t-carlson-deeply-disturbed.html
blog.ufo.blog-
http://blog.ufo-blog.com/2010/11/james-carlson-vs-robert-hastings-ufos.html
The UFO Chronicles-
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/10/james-t-carlson-problem-robert-hastings.html
The UFO Chronicles-
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/09/echooscar-witch-hunt.html
Robert Hastings
http://www.ufohastings.com/
James T. Carlson on scribd.com:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson
And of course, James Carlson's personal attack on my friend and colleague, Roi, posted here on FIRST-UFOs. You may find it in the comments here, or read Mr. Carlson's comment below.
Comments:
James Carlson said...
I have NEVER called all military veterans liars, and you're an idiot if you think I have. Didn't it once occur to you to confirm whether your claims about me are true or not? Or did you just assume that I would do something so outrageous? I have called Robert Salas and Robert Hastings liars, because I've documented their lies, and I can prove it. And I'll continue to say it, as well. They are liars, and they have pulled off a UFO hoax unlike any others because people like you are willing to believe whatever you're told without even attempting to confirm any of it. I'm a veteran myself, and I'm an honest man, as is my father. I'm sorry your Dad's no longer with us, but I never called him a liar, just as I've never called all military veterans liars. I call Hastings and Salas liars because they have lied on many occasions. I don't know your Dad at all, and I would never presume to discuss what he believes or thinks about or experienced in his life as you have done with my father, so grow the fuck up already, for chrissake. You're acting like an infant, and you have precious little to add to this conversation except insults that have no basis.
November 22, 2010 9:13 PM
Note: Please excuse the posting of foul language on this site but I had to quote Mr. Carlson's comment, in it's entirety.
Thank you. - S. Williams
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Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Sunday, May 30, 2010
MUFON's "Cherry" Bomb
An invisible rip in the fabric
by Billy Cox
De Void tends to ignore personality-spattered UFO food fights because a) they’re boring, like real life and b) nobody outside the small circles of what the MSM describes as “believers” gives a damn anyway. But lately, the longest-running private UFO research group in the country is having a PR problem that’s getting a little too loud to ignore — and its new leader is using the C word.
“I’m not trying to be conspiracy minded,” says Clifford Clift, the international director for the Mutual UFO Network. “But there always seems to be somebody out there, when we start going in the right direction, who starts putting us through detours.”
OK, wait. MUFON’s been around since 1969, no mean feat considering how it relies on an all-volunteer staff to conduct its thankless mission of sifting through UFO reports, most of which turn out to be rubbish. Yet, despite its limitations, the 501(c)3 manages to do pretty good work, and its “UFO Stalker” sightings map continues to update its cool interactive database in real time.
So maybe a better story here should be how infrequently management-level ego eruptions actually spill into the public domain, given the inherent lack of recognition or material perks in this wretched field. And especially given the number of paranoid, delusional and grandiose wack jobs who routinely inject themselves into diligent UFO investigations.
But that’s exactly what happened at a MUFON meeting on May 2, when Ken Cherry, the Texas MUFON director, went sideways and tore into everyone from witnesses to the national leadership. Evidently, two years of frustration emanating from the 1/8/08 Stephenville incident — the most well-documented UFO event of the modern era — blew like a BP wellhead.
No one escaped Cherry’s spray, which showered “outsiders” who had the audacity to enter his fiefdom without personal invitations. Cherry said one investigator was so stupid he “didn’t know how to use a computer”; another “one of these so-called experts” came with “multiple degrees and a smart ass.” He accused then-international director James Carrion of doing “a lot to discredit MUFON” with a pattern of “incompetence” suggesting “evidence of a conspiracy.”
After charging MUFON with conducting “an unwarranted and unauthorized investigation behind our backs” and for “discrediting witnesses,” the dude went on to repeat the offense himself. Singling out one eyewitness by name for his “psychological problems,” Cherry chided other “nutcase” greedheads for peddling bogus UFO footage in 2008 to the media. Then he pitched his own DVDs and videos, recorded from an earlier lecture in San Jose, for only $10.
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